Is there anything about the leaking of the so-called PFI e-mail

that you feel that this inquiry should, should be aware of?

Oh, God, um...

I mean, um...

I mean, to be brutally frank,

I'm, I'm struggling to remember here, but...

Well, please take your time. There's no hurry.

Of course, yeah, I mean I think, you know, what,

what you have to remember, in this instance, is that on the day

that all of that stuff took place, um, I was in hospital.

So I'm, you know, I'm cut off, essentially, I didn't have a phone.

But I mean, I hadn't mentioned, er, the use of a phone, I mean...

Yes, no, I know, I'm simply saying I was...

You weren't working remotely from the hospital?

No, no, not remotely, um, er, in, in either sense. No. No.

Did you have any visitors?

Erm...

You must be able to remember that.

Well, if you're not completely sure, Mr Reeder,

you can always check with the visitors' records.

Well, don't, let's not do that, um, let's not do that for the moment,

let me just, if, just give, bear with me, er, but I did, yes,

I think I was visited by colleagues from the office.

Can you give us a name?

Er, Malcolm is, um, is his name, Malcolm's name,

Malcolm, Malcolm Tucker visited me.

I'm assuming this wasn't a social visit, what did, er,

what did he, what did Mr Tucker want?

He wanted to, he, I mean, what, what, OK.

I mean, I'm really, I'm, I'm anxious, I'm keen,

I'm trying my best to answer your, er, questions truthfully...

I should remind you you are under oath, Mr...

Absolutely, yes, I'm under oath, so this is... but, but, er...

What you have to understand is,

everybody has something on everyone here, right?

So in this circumstance, if you inadvertently say or do something,