does a cow drink milk?

Does it?

Probably.

But what I meant to say was, er, yes,

um, my colleagues lie constantly, it's a professional necessity.

Have you ever leaked, Mr Cullen?

First of all, may I just say, er, welcome back, Baroness Sureka,

big hugs, I'm sure I speak to everyone here

when I say that we're all thinking of you, er, and, er, you have been...

I'd rather you, um, swapped the ham-fisted flattery for actually

answering my question, which was have you ever leaked?

Right. No, it's a very simple question

and it's got a very simple answer. No, I haven't.

Um, you'll be aware of Ollie Reeder's testimony to the inquiry

where he said that you were, in fact, responsible for the PFI leak.

Yes, I am.

But, no, which means to say I am aware of, of that.

But, gosh, you've got to be careful what you say here, haven't you?

You certainly do, Mr Cullen. Let's hope we're up to it.

Is there any truth at all in Mr Reeder's accusations?

Absolutely none whatsoever.

He's talking out of his... out of his other cheeks, if you...

Why would Oliver Reeder suggest that you were behind

the PFI e-mail leak, then?

I've absolutely no idea.

It's very difficult for me to get into the mindset of somebody

so entirely self-serving and, um, spiritually ugly.

I mean, anyone who's been unfortunate enough to have come across

Ollie Reeder will know that he is a genuinely...

atrocious person.

Mmm. Do you believe Mr Reeder was trying to cover himself in that case?

Well, I do believe he has the emotional tools for the task. Yes, certainly.

Do you believe that Ollie Reeder was behind the leak?

No.

You see...

A leak of this magnitude would require