A you know? What's, what's this?

You know, that story about you in the papers.

A story involving me in the newspapers is not the subject

of this investigation, so we are not going to discuss it any further.

Now, er, Miss Murdoch, what about the use of data smuggling,

er, within government?

Do you know anything about that?

Yeah, loads. Um, there are dodgy people in the NHS

and the benefits office who talk to investigators all the time.

Do you have experience of this? Yeah, I've been on the receiving end of it.

I didn't know that the notes your GP makes are available

to your local pharmacist.

I went to see my mother's doctor about her alcohol problem,

which is a private family matter.

Next thing I knew, it's all round the village.

Yes. And now it's all round the world.

Exactly.

She's saying that that's your fault.

How?

Oh.

As you can see, Baroness Sureka is not with us

and will remain absent while she deals with the personal allegations

published in the Sunday Times.

This in no way invalidates the inquiry, nor does it compromise

the integrity of any questioning conducted by Baroness Sureka.

Mr Hodge.

Thank you.

Er, Oliver Reeder, you were a senior advisor to Nicola Murray

during her time as Secretary of State at DoSAC.

Yup. I was, er, the senior advisor.

Good, and when Ms Murray became Leader of the Opposition,

er, you were also one of her senior advisors?

Yeah. Again, the, the senior advisor, yeah.

I see, and now you're a senior advisor to Mr Dan Miller?

Yeah, yeah, slight, a slightly less pivotal role with, with Dan,

but part of a, kind of, larger pivot, really.